FROM THE WORLD TO THE BASQUE COUNTRY
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2007/VIII/12
EH News periodical information on the Basque Country
«In Madrid there is no maturity yet to reach a decisive agreement»Larreina agrees with Otegi that Madrid "has shown no maturity"Bermejo (Spanish Justice minister) calls to resume talks "if there are conditions"Goirizelaia accuses the PNV "of manipulating information" to cover its behaviour in the negotiation processRubalcaba and Alliot-Marie bid once again for the police route against ETA 01/08/07The PSOE clears the way for Sanz and Barrena underlines that the PSOE does not respect the Basque decision
«In Madrid there is no maturity yet to reach a decisive agreement»Fragments of the GARA interview to Arnaldo OTEGI, member of Batasuna's national executive, jailed in Martutene 30/07/07
What do you think of being imprisoned for speaking about Argala, knowing that the Spanish Army representatives recognized in "El Mundo" their participation in his killing and they are free?
I believe that it reflects with exactitude, which is the price in terms of political justice derived from the so call "democratic" transition in the Spanish state.
In your opinion, and regarding the information published by GARA, why did the last negotiating attempt failed, carried out in the heat of electoral campaign?
I want say in the first place that I do not confirm nor deny the contents of what GARA published. I believe that it is necessary to be cautious in any circumstance. Said this, I also want to rise that a negotiating process scheme cannot be defined in terms on "last" attempts. The principle of dialogue and negotiation must be permanent, whatever it is the context or the political conjuncture, and to work in the search of the necessary conditions for a decisive negotiation.
I do not speak of failure. In any case, it is possible to affirm that we have advanced, but that we have not reached a final decisive agreement. And we have not done so because the Spanish Government has neither the ambition nor the maturity to reach it. But we must not desist, it is necessary to continue talking, working over what has already been done... that is what our country demands.
There those who have accused the Basque pro-independence left of fraud for not breaking the process before the elections...
The possibility of reaching a great political agreement still existed during the electoral campaign. Let's not lie, it is mainly the PNV that this sending these affirmations, with a single intention: to hide its electoral failure.
What is left of the process? What conclusions do you reach after these years of work?
As it has been widely demonstrated the route of repression and confrontation is a useless strategy, and if you add an attempt to reedit a new political fraud by just forwarding statutory reforms, it will only serve to extend a conflict situation.
Only a political agreement that will return and establish installs a democratic framework in the Basque Country can resolve this conflict.
What do you think on the MEPs' call to both ETA and the Spanish Government maintain the calm? What do you think on the implication of the European Union?
At the moment it is important to know that the resolution to the conflict must also be resolved in the European scene. The European Union is also looking towards the Basque Country. That is why at moments these, it is necessary to maintain the bid for dialogue, cautiousness and also for popular mobilization.
The PNV says that are no interlocutors in the Basque pro-independence, what do you think about it?
What I would like is to meet PNV interlocutors able to rise in the negotiation table different positioning from what maintained by the PSOE interlocutors.
Which is your opinion around the attitude of the PNV towards the Basque pro-independence left?
I think they have powerful reasons to be preoccupied. From my point of view the last elections have worn down their position, and this wearing down is because two reasons: for the copycat position towards the PSOE in the peace process, and for the existence of a social and popular tendency that distrusts enormously of the management model offered by the PNV. This popular tendency is already searching for a political and institutional alternative to the hegemony of the PNV (in the Basque Autonomous Community) and of UPN (in Navarre).
The Basque pro-independence left must work to attain a democratic framework leading a process that must take to us to a scene of peace and freedom, and at the same time build a popular and socialist alternative that leads us to independence through the left.
Is possible a process of resolution without the PNV?
We are speaking of a process of solutions, and therefore, it is necessary the help of all political, social and trade union forces of our Country.
Said this, a process of democratic solutions demands an agreement that opens the doors in conditions of equality to the attainment of all the political projects, including the pro-independence project.
The PNV has not forwarded a proposal to shape that democratic scene for the four territories of the south of the Basque Country. Nevertheless, I am of the opinion that the beginning, with public and transparent character of the Dialogue table, would force all the parts to forward their real plans before the Basque Country.
In that scene, all the political forces would be forced to expose our proposals, and the PNV and the PSOE would be forced to put black over white, which are their alternatives to resolve the conflict.
What do you think of the opinion article recently published by the president of the PNV, Josu Jon Imaz?
His last opinion article reflects the position that has maintained the PNV in the dialogue process.
Tries to hide the lack of a national project and shows his political obsessions: to maintain the structure of the Basque Autonomous Community in order to continue making business.
We are also in favour of an integrating and democratic agreement that is put under popular consultation. But without traps: that agreement must resolve the problem of the territorial structuring and regulate the right of the Basque citizenship to decide free, democratically and peacefully its political and institutional future, without more limit than the respect to the popular will.
And which is your view on the PNV's and Ibarretxe's calls to ANV to condemn ETA?
Those calls bring us to the past, and a different future cannot be build with old prescriptions. This reflection that must guide us all, also the Basque pro-independence left.
Wants the Basque pro-independence left to impose its principles?
The Basque pro-independence has forwarded a very simple scene and proposal: that our political project can be materialized through pacific and democratic routes by means of the democratic adhesion of the Basque citizenship. Until that scene is possible, we propose an alternative of tactical nature that consists on the creation of a Basque-Navarre Autonomy framework that resolves the citizenship's right of decision.
You are accused of breaking the method forwarded in Anoeta, is that true?
The method forwarded in Anoeta is a method that currently continues having all its use.
But there is a fact that we do not have to avoid: a sincere process that gives solution to the conflict must be approach with honesty the roots that feeds it, and it is necessary to do it from the viewpoint of the Spanish Government, with a great political dose of pedagogy.
This type of process cannot be faced, if the Government, his president and the state mass media have not enough strength and commitment to face the Spanish public opinion in political terms to explain with clarity that exists a political problem that must be resolved in political terms.
The process cannot be considered in terms of Victory or Defeat, but in terms of net gain for the Basque Country, and also for the set of peoples of the Spanish State.
Do you believe on the Spanish Government's will to surpass the conflict? Was that commitment sincere?
This is a phase that must be overcome with time. The facts have guaranteed our Country the Basque pro-independence left's absolute disposition to reach an agreement. Now we must build again, from what has already been built, the conditions that will allow us to reach a decisive agreement.
That is why; it is necessary to continue maintaining the opened communication routes, and to be aware also that it is the Basque pro-independence left who must lead all the initiatives towards the creation of new conditions.
The division between the PP and the PSOE has been a burden? Do you think that the PP has restrained the PSOE, or the PSOE has used the PP to withdrawal?
The problem is that the process started up without a homogenous State.
The PP chose at all times to manipulate the process in electoral terms. This situation derived in a strong offensive against the political nature of the resolution process. The most convenient would have been the formalization of a State Pact directed to the consecution of a conflict solution scene. No a days it is not possible.
It is evident that the PSOE "has been taken advantage of" situation, that has permanently hid itself behind the PP positions.
What has failed the Basque pro-independence left on?
We must also do a pedagogical exercise: it is necessary to start a process without a hurry, without black or white, a process in which the guarantee of success is based and relies on the agreements, yes, but mainly in the confidence towards the Basque pro-independence left's and the Basque Country's strength.
Which are the tasks for the coming months?
The Basque pro-independence left has an historical challenge: to build the organizational, political and institutional alternative that will lead the Basque social majority. This challenge demands to make decisions and to adapt outlines of political and institutional work.
From my point of view, to build that alternative it is and it will be only possible if we are able on the one hand, to lead a process that will take us to a new framework of democracy and peace and on the other to connect a real alternative to the national and social model imposed by the PNV/UPN tandem for a new one that will makes us advance in the direction of our political project.
Larreina agrees with Otegi that Madrid "has shown no maturity"Rafa Larreina, general secretary of EA, assured yesterday that it agrees with Arnaldo Otegi when this he affirms from jail that "the Spanish Government has neither the sufficient ambition nor the maturity" to reach a final decisive agreement on the process. Rafa Larreina also added that while that does not change, "it will be difficult to advance in the resolution of the conflict".
Bermejo (Spanish Justice minister) calls to resume talks "if there are conditions"The Spanish Justice minister, Mariano Fernandez Bermejo, pleaded yesterday to resume the dialogue with the armed organization ETA "whenever the suitable conditions are given".
On the other hand, Fernandez Bermejo revealed that the State Legal Services are "permanently aware of what happens" and, "if proofs asses that ANV is a conglomerate of Batasuna or is in tune with ETA as the law of parties state", the Spanish government will act consequently.
Goirizelaia accuses the PNV "of manipulating information" to cover its behaviour in the negotiation process iónThe lawyer and member of Basque pro-independence left's national executive, Jone Goirizelaia accused yesterday the PNV "of manipulating the reality" on the three bands conversations carried out by the PSOE, the Basque pro-independence left and the Basque right wing formation in the sanctuary of Loiola the past autumn, with the purpose of hiding their responsibility. She considered that the formation of Josu Jon Imaz, is trying "to raise a smoke screen and is manipulating both the information and reality" in order to "cover its own miseries and frustrations".
The representative of the Basque pro-independence left reiterated again that the problem always rested on the lack of concretion on elementary aspects for the political agreement such as the territorial structuring of the country and the right to decide.
Goirizelaia defended that the Basque pro-independence left tried to settle those terms because "if everything is very ample the problem lies later in the interpretations and the concretion", as it has happened.
Rubalcaba and Alliot-Marie bid once again for the police route against ETA 01/08/07The French and Spanish states have again ratified the repressive strategy against the Basque Country. So was announced by the Spanish Home minister, Alfredo Perez Rubalcaba, and his French homologous, Michèle Alliot-Marie, where they bid, once again and, for the police routes. In the meeting maintained in Paris by the two maximum representatives of the police, they settled as fundamental objective "the maximum possible police pressure against ETA".
Batasuna warns of the "new fraud" prepared by the PSOE and the PNV 03/08/07The Basque pro-independence left forwarded yesterday its political strategy to the coming months, that will continue centring around the proposal for a democratic framework presented in the Anaitasuna pavilion because, in its opinion, "is the one that responds to the desire of the social majority of this country". At the same time, it indicated that the PNV and the PSOE have marginalized the search of the political and armed conflict resolution of their agenda.
The last declarations made by the Spanish and French home ministers, Alfredo Perez Rubalcaba and Michèle Alliot-Marie respectively, as well as Josu Jon Imaz's speech have made the Basque pro-independence left state that the authorities of both states and the executive of the PNV "have decided to reject the search of a dialogued solution" to the armed and political conflict that suffers the Basque Country.
The PSOE clears the way for Sanz and Barrena underlines that the PSOE does not respect the Basque decisionThe decision of the Federal Executive of the PSOE to give the Navarre Government to UPN to avoid joint formulas with Nationalist parties has created an enormous crisis within the PSN, whose direction has announces that it will accept the decision although the head of the list in the Navarre parliament, Fernando Puras, has resigned and also warned that an scission could be given.
In an interview in Euskadi Irratia, the Navarrese member of the Basque pro-independence left's national executive, Pernando Barrena, affirmed that it draws " a very clear pedagogical conclusion: How the hell will the PSOE respect the word and the decision of the Basques when he is not able to respect the decision of its Navarrese militants? That is truly important". Barrena stated that the PSOE "does not assume the Basque decision scope", not even within the space of his own party.
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